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FAQ'S

Table of Contents

  1. What are the field dimensions for Bronco and Pony ?
  2. How are teams formed ?
  3. Who Runs the League ?
  4. How Can I Find Out More Information On PONY
  5. Is PONY Popular in Orange County ?
  6. What Makes PONY Different ?
  7. Is PONY International ?
  8. How 'Far' Do PONY All Stars Go ?

What are the field dimensions for Bronco and Pony ?

Bronco plays on 70' base paths and a 48' pitching distance.  Pony plays on 80' base paths and 54' pitching distance.

The PONY organization firmly believes in field dimensions that grow with the players - not behind and not ahead.  Many years of experimentation and research are behind the dimensions used in PONY Baseball today.  The dimensions that grow with the player allow real baseball to be played with a good balance of successes for both offense and defense.  Adding the dropped third strike and lead offs elements to the game provide for a more exciting interactive game between fielders and base runners.

In contrast to Little League Juniors, the Pony League plays at 80' base paths and 54' pitching.  This has been highly recommended by our El Toro High School liaison, Russ Jensen.   This distance is healthy and makes for a good competitive baseball experience.  Throws from one base to another can be made efficiently, pitchers can work on mechanics and strategies without over-straining their arms, etc.  The health of the youth and developing good solid fundamentals are high priorities in our league.

This is perhaps why Saddleback Valley PONY has a reputation for providing good solid players to the local High Schools.

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How are teams formed?

Teams are formed by a traditional serpentine draft method.  During winterball, players are drafted without benefit of a tryout.  During spring a full tryout is held and then the teams are drafted.  Beginning with the 2007 season, the board has approved the registration of club teams (pre-formed teams).  The board and El Toro High School representatives recommend a mixed league with tryout and draft, however, to accommodate the desires of the community (a foundation of PONY baseball), club teams will be accepted.   The board will determine the level of involvement of the club teams on a case by case, season by season basis.  All decisions will be based on what is good for the entire league.  The win loss records of the formed vs drafted teams for our first season are as follows:

Team Wins Losses Drafted / Pre-Formed
Utes 16 7 Drafted
Wildcats 13 10 Drafted
Volcanoes 13 8 Club
Titans 3 18 Pre-Formed from Winterball
Aztecs 0 19 Pre-Formed from Winterball

While some of the teams were 'pre-formed', the distribution of winning teams is very similar to a fully drafted league.  Every year there are one or two teams that win most of their games and one or two that win very few games even with a full draft.  Allowing the pre-formed teams gives the players options and allows them to play with friends.  Should a pre-formed team appear 'stacked', the team would likely play only interleague games.  The board will review the composition of teams every year and make the appropriate decision.

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Who Runs the League ?

Saddleback Valley PONY Baseball League is a non-profit volunteer organization run by all volunteers.  We currently (as of 2007) have a board of six members.  We are always looking for more individuals that wish to get involved.  

Many of the decisions are based on input from the community of players and parents.  Holding a large amount of influence is our Chief Umpire and High School Liaison, Russ Jensen.  As our goal is to develop and prepare players for high school play, the expectations of the high school staff are important to our decision making process.

All input is considered and no hesitation should be made in providing feedback and suggestions to the board.

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How Can I Find Out More Information on PONY ?

The PONY Incorporated website can be found at www.PONY.org

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Is PONY Popular in Orange County ?

Emphatically YES!  Almost every City in OC has a PONY organization.  They take various forms, some use the PONY name and others don't although they are associated with PONY Inc.

PONY is growing every year in part due to the growth of travel ball.  Players are learning that playing real baseball can be real fun.  

Some Leagues host only the Pony League level (ages 13-14); others host more age groups such as Bronco (ages 11-12); while some host Leagues from starting with Shetland (ages 6 and under).


Ages 6 and Under

Ages 7 and 8

Ages 9 and 10

Ages 11 and 12

Ages 13 and 14

Ages 15 and 16

Ages 17 and 18

 

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What Makes PONY Different ?

There are several aspects to the PONY program that make it different and better:

1) The two year age brackets keep peers playing with peers.  In Little League you can have some divisions with ages spanning 3 years.  Little League often uses the division structure to push less talented players down with younger players.  This stagnates development of players and is a blow to self-esteem.  PONY has the ability to keep age groups together and provide for both a recreational and competitive structure using the American and National (regular and plus) leagues, while keeping same age players together.

2) The field grows with the player.  Little League uses the same field dimensions through age 12 (46' pitching; 60' base paths) then jumps to a full size diamond (60'6" pitching; 90' bases).  That is a 14'6" increase in pitching and 30' increase in base path in ONE YEAR.

The game of baseball cannot be played as it was intended to be played if the physical capability of the players does not match the physical achievements required for the game.

PONY Baseball, on the other hand, scales the size of their diamonds to match the physical capabilities of the players within each division.

The base and pitching dimensions for PONY Baseball are:

         50-foot bases for Shetland (5-6 year-olds)
         50-foot bases and 38-foot pitching for Pinto (7-8 year-olds)
         60-foot bases and 44-foot pitching for Mustang (9-10 year-olds)
         70-foot bases and 48-foot pitching for Bronco (11-12 year-olds) - Currently offered by SV PONY
         80-foot bases and 54-foot pitching for Pony (13-14 year-olds) - Currently offered by SV PONY

         90-foot bases and 60-1/2-foot pitching for Colt/Palamino (15-16, and 17-18 year-olds)

These base dimensions are the result of extensive experimentation to determine the size on which players of each age group can properly play the game of baseball. Pitching distance is also scaled to the ability of the player in proportion to the size of the diamond.

The scaled down diamonds allow the players to make the plays made by the major leaguers. Home runs become a possibility. Outfielders can play in a position proportionately equal to that played by a major leaguer. The double play, squeeze play, and various strategy tactics, difficult for adults and nearly impossible for youngsters on a full size diamond, become a probability rather than an impossibility.

3)  Local Rules - SV PONY believes kids should be playing not sitting on the bench.  Bronco has an equal playtime rule and PONY has a minimum of 3 innings of defensive play.  Both Leagues bat the entire roster, not just the nine players on the field.

4)  Flexibility in forming teams.  Players like to play with friends.  This makes the game more enjoyable.  

5)  Listening to the members.  With the flexibility of the PONY structure, we can listen to the needs and desires of our membership and make adjustments to accommodate most needs/wants.  Our goal is to develop talented, happy, and well adjusted players.

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Is PONY International ?

YES!  PONY has Leagues in many countries and is growing every year.  The latest news article on the PONY website states the rule book is now being translated in to Chinese.

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How Far Do All Stars Go ?

PONY Mustang, Bronco and Pony Leagues have an International World Series All Star Tournament.  Teams succeeding at the local level (Area/District) advance to Section, then Region, then Zone and finally to the World Series.  The Shetland and Pinto Leagues form all star teams and compete locally only.

In 2006, our PONY-14 team advanced all the way to the Region level.

The PONY organization allows us to form our teams in any way we deem appropriate (our policies can be found in the All Star Section of this website) and allows us to send as many teams as we deem appropriate.  This gives more players the opportunity to experience all stars and allows us to send a competitive team.

In addition, PONY allows and encourages pre-all star tournaments.  While Little League is often 2-3 games and done, in a typical PONY all star 'season' the team can get in anywhere from 6  to 16 games if desired with several trophy opportunities.  

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